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Barnes and Noble Interview
with Robert J. Sawyer
An interview with Robert J. Sawyer for Barnes and Noble Online
Interview conducted Sunday, June 21, 1998, by Matt Schwartz.
Can you give our readers a little sense of what
Factoring Humanity is about?
Factoring Humanity is my tenth novel. It tells the story of Kyle
Graves, who is an artificial-intelligence researcher at the
University of Toronto, and his estranged wife Heather Davies, who
is a psychologist at U of T. Kyle seems to be about to make a
breakthrough in quantum computing, and Heather is trying to
decode radio messages that have been received from Alpha
Centauri. These two plotlines plus a real family crisis for
Kyle and Heather, involving the suicide of one of their daughters
come together in a way that takes humanity on the next major
step forward in its evolution. Balancing the very human and the
grandly cosmic is really what good, modern SF is all about, in my
view, and Factoring Humanity is probably my purest expression of
that ideal to date.
With Illegal Alien
and your new novel Factoring Humanity,
you've helped to create a new subgenre the hard-SF-thriller,
kind of like mixing Science Fiction with John Grisham or James
Patterson. Science Fiction has been viewed by some as a genre
that is dwindling. Is this mix of SF with a currently very
popular genre the thriller an intentional attempt at
expanding SF's reach, or did it just happen to figure into your
storylines?
It's absolutely intentional. I really am afraid that science
fiction is in danger of going the way of horror or westerns.
We've seen SF take a real body-blow in the last couple of years,
largely because the independent-distribution channel (which
places paperback books in wire racks in drugstores, grocery
stores, and so on) has stopped carrying any category SF, except
for media tie-ins. Also, the average age of those attending SF
conventions has, in the twenty-odd years that I've been attending
them myself, always been equal to my own age: when I started
going, the conventions were filled with teenagers; now, they're
filled with people in middle age. So SF is definitely in crisis.
I'm not selling out, though; I still write real SF, with real
science. But by emphasizing strong, page-turner plots, and by
setting the books in the near future (my current
Hugo Award
nominee,
Frameshift, was set in the present day;
Illegal Alien is
set in 1999; and Factoring Humanity is set in 2017), I'm trying
to reach out to those who have never read SF before, and who have
maybe been intimidated by the spaceships and aliens. Fortunately
for me, the core SF audience continues to embrace my books, but
I've also managed to attract a lot of non-SF readers . . . and I
think that's good not just for me, but for the SF field in
general.
Factoring Humanity analyzes the power to travel through
humanity's collective subconscious. If you were offered that trip
the ability to really see into anyone and everyone is that
something you would want to do?
For sure. I once met a woman who was going on about how complex
and difficult her life was, and I finally commented (gently, I
hope) that, you know, your life really doesn't sound any more
difficult than mine or anyone else's. She was floored by the
suggestion that someone else could have as complex an internal
life as she did, being as conflicted, and confused, and torn
apart by issues as she was. And yet we all reinforce that
impression: people ask us "What are you thinking," and instead
of replying honestly, we say "nothing," instead of revealing the
million secret thoughts swirling through our heads. The chance
to see the vast, chaotic complexity of another mind would be
enormously enlightening for anyone, and I'd certainly jump at the
chance myself. As for which historical figures I'd like to peek
into, well, many would be writers, of course, to see how the
creative process worked for them. But I'd also like to visit
some of my personal heroes, such as Martin Luther King, Jr.,
Charles Darwin, and Canada's first Prime Minister, Sir John A.
Macdonald.
Do you find it difficult explaining and using as a central
plot point theoretical concepts, such as the fourth dimension,
in the context of a novel whose purpose is to entertain?
Before I became a full-time novelist in 1991, I worked as a
journalist, often doing articles about science and high
technology. So, no, I have no difficulty explaining complex
stuff clearly and concisely; indeed, one review has already
observed that "the science in the book is given articulate
treatment, and even the densely argued The Emperor's New Mind
by Roger Penrose becomes understandable after reading
Factoring Humanity."
I realize having a novel contain a discussion of quantum
computing, or the many-worlds interpretation of quantum physics,
or what a tesseract is isn't to everyone's taste. But I really
do try to keep the story moving even when I am exploring an
intriguing bit of physics or math. Sure, anything that isn't
just pure plot is a turn-off for some readers, and that's fine
with me. I don't want the largest possible number of readers;
rather, I simply want for all the readers who like the same
things I like to discover my books.
Salvador Dali's controversial painting of the crucifixion of Christ
entitled
Christus Hypercubus plays into
Factoring Humanity. Are you a fan of Dali's? Would you call him an
influence?
Dali seemed a perfect motif to use for this particular novel
(Jung was also a great motif, too, and I use references to him
and his work throughout the book, as well). I do enjoy Dali's
work, though, to be honest, I like Renoir and Emily Carr much
more than I like Dali (and, as far as mind-bending pictures are
concerned, give me a nice M. C. Escher instead of melting watches
any day). But paintings in general are certainly an influence on
me. I can't paint at all, but an image capture on a canvas is
like an image captured in a paragraph: frozen for all time,
capable of being revisited again and again. In most of my books,
you'll find descriptions of the paintings or art prints people
have on their office walls.
Factoring Humanity's protagonist Heather Davis spends a large
part of her career deciphering a message from space. If you had
the power to send a message off to space that would represent
humanity to other lifeforms in the universe, what would that
message be?
They cynic in me would send a pictogram of the planet Earth with
a solid box around it, saying, in essence, keep away not
because of any fear of what the aliens might do to us, but out of
concern over what we might do to them. But my cynical part is
usually held at bay. I think we've already taken a pretty good
stab at the kind of message I'd want to do: the Voyager record.
There's virtually no science we could teach anyone: aliens who
could receive and understand our messages are likely to be
decades if not centuries more advanced than us. So, I'd send our
art our music, our paintings (including Dali!), photos of
sculpture, and so on. Art really is the signature of
civilization.
My one sadness is that the art form that I myself practice
writing is the least likely to ever be appreciated by aliens.
I really do think that any lifeform in the universe could indeed
appreciate Mozart or a well-composed painting; the principles of
both music and design are mathematical, after all. But the
written word is meaningless unless you know the language and
our language, the tool we use for shaping our thoughts, is the
most uniquely human thing we possess.
Factoring Humanity doesn't exactly seem to put the profession of
therapist in high regard, even showing the potential dangers of an
unsuitable therapist. Does it represent personal feelings you have
towards therapy, or was it essentially a necessary plot point?
This is always a problem for writers: the reader wants to
generalize one character into a worldview. If you have a corrupt
lawyer in a novel, suddenly you're seen as saying that all
lawyers are corrupt (and, of course, the political-correctness
backlash means that many writers shy away from any
uncomplimentary view of any character, lest you be accused of
believing that all whites, or all blacks, or all men, or all
women, or all gays, or all straights, are just like your
character).
In point of fact, I went to great pains to make clear in
Factoring Humanity that the therapist was unlicensed, didn't have
a doctorate, and probably shouldn't have been practicing. And,
of course, there are bad therapists, and exposing them, and their
practices, is an important and righteous thing to do. Still, I
tried to show some real compassion toward the therapist in
Factoring Humanity; she, too, had been abused, after all. And I
fully recognize that therapy has been tremendously useful for a
lot of people, and, indeed, my earlier novel
Foreigner (Ace,
1994) actually has a therapist as the main character; that
therapist manages not just to cure her chief patient but that
character's entire species as well. But, sure, I expect to get
letters complaining about that, and other, aspects of the
narrative . . . but provoking strong reactions is one of the
hallmarks of good writing, so that's fine by me.
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